Tuesday, April 14, 2015

Ten Things about BR Ambedkar That You Probably Didn't Know

Dr. Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar is a tall figure of 20th century Indian  history. Popularly known as Babasaheb, the details about his careers as a lawyer, politician, constitution framer, social reformer and an economist are well known. He's an inspiration to crores of young Indians today of various classes and ideologies.

But there are ten snippets about this famous man, that are not quite highlighted. Time to take a look at them. I will provide references for each as to where I learned about them, and if any of them need correction or contention, please post comments with authentic references.

1: Dr. Ambedkar stood for Sanskrit as the official language of India.

This is not a well known fact, but it is a fact. In 2005, this was revealed by Chamu Krishna Shastry, a well known Sanskrit proponent in India.
"Dr Ambedkar himself wanted to sponsor Sanskrit as the official language of the Indian union along with his supporters Dr BV Keskar, deputy minister for external affairs, and Naziruddin Ahmed. He moved an amendment draft on September 10, 1949. The resolution had to be withdrawn due to political pressure."
Reference: Ambedkar wanted Sanskrit as official language

It is anyone's guess as to who might have exerted " political pressure" on Ambedkar in 1949 to withdraw that historic resolution, which could have changed India in an different direction. Ambedkar's strong support to Sanskrit is something to ponder upon, for those who consider Sanskrit as an "Aryan" language of upper castes, that should not be supported.

2: Ambedkar is actually a Hindu Brahmin surname.
Image from Wiki

Bhimrao's original surname was Ambavadekar. It comes from his family's native village name in Ratnagiri district of Maharashtra, even though he was born in today's Madhya Pradesh region. In Marathi, it is a common practice to add "kar" to the village name as the surname.

In this writeup in the Outlook, Smruti Koppikar describes how his favourite Hindu Brahmin teacher, Mahadev Ambedkar, changed his surname from 'Ambavadekar' to his own surname 'Ambedkar' in the school records. The respect Bhimrao had for his teacher Mahadev, ensured that his borrowed surname continued for rest of his life! It tells us that Bhimrao respected all castes - his fight was against caste discrimination, and not Hinduism or any particular caste.

Reference: Bhimrao Sakpal Ambavadekar became Bhimrao Ambedkar

3. Ambedkar's father was a Vegetarian.

This one really surprised me. In the recent days, whenever there's a protest against ban on cow slaughter, you will invariably see an Ambedkar picture and beef eating "ceremonies".

But after reading Vikram Doctor's blog on the Economic Times, I stumbled upon two surprising details.   
"Nor is it correct to equate all upper-castes with vegetarianism and all Dalits with eating meat – Dr.Ambedkar’s father, for example, was vegetarian."
"I’m not sure if Dr.Ambedkar became vegetarian when he converted to Buddhism – Keer’s book doesn’t seem to make this clear and there is a surprising lack of other biographical material."
It looks like being a Kabir Panthi, Ambedkar's father Ramji was certainly a vegetarian and teetotaler. It also kind of implies that Babasaheb might have become a vegetarian coming from that family and also a vegetarian during the later part of his life. Something that needs a bit more research. And those who follow Ambedkar's path, this is something critical to ask - why was his father and (likely) himself vegetarian?

Reference: The Dalit Meanings of Food

4. Nehru prevented Ambedkar from entering Lok Sabha. Jan Sangh got him to Rajya Sabha.

Ambedkar contested Lok Sabha election twice. Both times Nehru's Congress made sure that he was defeated. Babasaheb Ambedkar contested from Bombay North in the first Indian General Election in 1952 but lost to the Congress candidates Narayan Kajrolkar, who had been his assistant once. He tried to enter Lok Sabha again in 1954 when he contested the by-election from Bhandara but he was placed third in the ballot won by Congress.
"In 1952, the Congress defeated Ambedkar in the parliamentary seat of Dadar in Bombay. It is strange that Jawaharlal Nehru did the sin of campaigning against Ambedkar during the elections.”
"The reason behind this was the Congress mentality of devaluing him. Later, the role played by Jan Sangh in getting him elected for Rajya Sabha from West Bengal is not hidden from anybody,” -  Arvind Menon, BJP.
So much for "love" of Ambedkar by Congress party.

Reference: Babasaheb was close to Jan Sangh, says BJP

Edit on 17th August 2016 - The reported claim by BJP above (see reference) was challenged by many people. Some are giving credit to Muslim League and JN Mandal of Bengal too. But the common theme is still that Congress did not help Dr. Ambedkar, but others did.

5. Bhimrao's second wife was a Hindu Brahmin.

Ambedkar met Dr. Sharada Kabir, a Saraswat Brahmin, when he needed medical treatment in the late 1940s. He married her on 15 April 1948, at his home in New Delhi. His first wife had passed away a decade ago. Doctors recommended that he needed a companion who was both a good cook and a possessor of medical knowledge and could thus take care of him. She adopted the name Savita Ambedkar and took care of him for the rest of his life.

Pic: photobucket
It is unfortunate that any political or NGO conversations regarding Ambedkar quickly turn into anti-Brahmin mode, when his borrowed surname is that of a Brahmin and his wife who served him during most needy years, was a Brahmin woman.

6. Ambedkar was not against Hindutva or RSS.

Ambedkar actually claimed Hindutva for the Dalits (untouchables or depressed classes) in 1927.
"Hindutva belongs as much to untouchable Hindus as to the touchable Hindus. The temples must be open for all. Efforts were made for the growth of Hindutva by Brahmins like Vasishta, Kshatriyas like Krishna, Vaishyas like Harsha and Shudras like Tukaram. The same amount of efforts for Hindutva were pitched in by untouchables (Dalits) like Valmiki (of Ramayana), Drishthara of Vyadha Gita, Chhokamela and Rohidasa. We have brave Sidnak Mahar kind of untouchable who fought for protection of Hindutva. Both touchable and untouchable Hindus have served the Hindu temples built in the names of Hindutva. So everyone has the right to enter them."


He also also praised Hindutva ideologue Veer Savarkar's efforts to eradicate caste discrimination in his Janata paper in 1933.
"Savarkar's efforts to uplift Dalits are as noble and effective as Gautama Buddha's" 
Ambedkar even visited RSS camp and praised them.
"Ever conscious of Hindu movements supporting Sanghatan – social solidarity, Dr.Ambedkar visited RSS camp in Pune in May 1939. He expressed his satisfaction: “I am surprised to find Swayamsevaks here moving about in absolute equality and brotherhood without even caring to know the castes of others."
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7. Ambedkar's strong views on Muslim society's evils, Christianity and Partition of India.

When some Dalit youth were supporting the anti-India Razakars of Hyderabad after independence, Ambedkar told them not to take that path:
"Hyderabad state's scheduled castes must not support the Nizam or Ittehad-ul-Muslimeen under any circumstance. No scheduled caste member should join hands with anti India forces, bringing disrepute to their castes"


If you read Ambedkar's book, chapter 10, you would start seeing his absolutely rational arguments condemning the evils of Muslim society in pre-partitioned India.

Read chapter 10 for instance which has a sub title ;- Muslim Society is even more full of social evils than Hindu Society is
"the Muslim woman is the most helpless person in the world."
 "No words can adequately express the great and many evils of polygamy and concubinage, and especially as a source of misery to a Muslim woman. It is true that because polygamy and concubinage are sanctioned, one must not suppose they are indulged in by the generality of Muslims; still the fact remains that they are privileges which are easy for a Muslim to abuse to the misery and unhappiness of his wife."
"Take the caste system. Islam speaks of brotherhood. Everybody infers that Islam must be free from slavery and caste. Regarding slavery nothing needs to be said. It stands abolished now by law. But while it existed, much of its support was derived from Islam and Islamic countries.While the prescriptions by the Prophet regarding the just and humane treatment of slaves contained in the Koran are praiseworthy, there is nothing whatever in Islam that lends support to the abolition of this curse..... But if slavery has gone,  caste among Musalmans has remained. As an illustration one may take the conditions prevalent among the Bengal Muslims."
"There can thus be no manner of doubt that the Muslim Society in India is afflicted by the same social evils as afflict the Hindu Society. Indeed, the Muslims have all the social evils of the Hindus and something more. That something more is the compulsory system of purdah for Muslim women."
Regarding Pakistan, if you read the Chapter 14 of the same book, you can clearly see that he wanted transfer of Muslims to Pakistan (east and West) with non Muslims back to India from there.
What about its workability? The scheme is not new. It has been tried and found workable. It was put into effect after the last European War, to bring about a transfer of population between Greece and Bulgaria and Turkey and Greece. Nobody can deny that it has worked, has been tried and found workable. The scheme I have outlined is a copy of the same scheme. It had the effect of bringing about a transfer of population between Greece and Bulgaria and Turkey and Greece. Nobody can deny that it was [=has] worked with signal success. What succeeded elsewhere may well be expected to succeed in India.
The most recent Organiser special edition on Ambedkar notes his view about Christianity and Islam, and conversion in general:
Ambedkar was against Dalits converting to Christianity or Islam because he believed that “if the numbers of Muslims and Christians rise and it will cause danger to India.” 
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8. Ambedkar's openly opposed Article 370 of Nehru's Congress, for Jammu and Kashmir. 

Ambedkar opposed Article 370 in the Constitution, which gives a special status to the State of Jammu and Kashmir, and it was put against his wishes. Balraj Madhok reportedly said, Ambedkar had clearly told Sheikh Abdullah:-
"You wish India should protect your borders, she should build roads in your area, she should supply you food grains, and Kashmir should get equal status as India. But Government of India should have only limited powers and Indian people should have no rights in Kashmir. To give consent to this proposal, would be a treacherous thing against the interests of India and I, as the Law Minister of India, will never do it."
Reference: Kashmir problem from Ambedkarite Perspective, by K Jamanadas.

9. Ambedkar was a confirmed enemy of Communists, in his own words!

Read this excerpt from a book on India. 
In another context, presiding over a District conference of the Depressed Classes at Masur in September 1937, Ambedkar declared that he was a confirmed enemy of the Communists who exploited the labourers for their political ends, and there was no possibility of joining them. 
Reference: Book Perfidies of Power: India in the New Millennium, by P Radhakrishnan, page 54.

10. Ambedkar warned India against China's aggression on Tibet and beyond.

The Time issue dated October 22, 1951, noted:
Ambedkar is the first important Indian official who has openly attacked Nehru for being too friendly to China and not friendly enough to the US”.
On China he disagreed with the Tibet policy and the enunciation of Panchsheel. He said:-
 “If Mao had any faith in the Panchsheel, he certainly would treat the Buddhist in his own country in a very different way. There is no room for Panchsheel in politics”.
Reference: Ambedkar’s views on foreign policy, by Harish Parvathaneni 

Hope you gained some insight after reading these today. Anything else you want to share in comments?

83 comments:

  1. Wonderful writeup Kiran ji. Your blogs and tweets are like mini encyclopedia ..lot of information in a single page.

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    1. Yes all lies,encyclopedia of untrue facts..

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  2. Very well written....when will our country people open eyes and see the world on its own ...Pls keep posting so that the new generation don't repeat History of myths

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  3. from the above its very clear that certain political maniacs are hell bent on destroying Hindustan

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    1. I hope no one preaches Rama hindu God was Muslim..this article is quiet simillar to zakhir naik proving Mohamad in vedas

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    2. Mr. Rohit, take pains to go through Dhananjay Keer's biography of Babasahab. Also read "Pakistan or the partition of India". You seem to be unaware of the contents of these books.

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    3. Mr. Rohit, take pains to go through Dhananjay Keer's biography of Babasahab. Also read "Pakistan or the partition of India". You seem to be unaware of the contents of these books.

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    5. Mr.Mittal I have commited in the above..post..I wanted to ask you..that whether Babasahebs original surname was Sakpal or Ambavdekar...please elaborate on this.I beg u to understand Dhananjay keers..Biography..where its written he was not Sakpal..it not untrue that he poccesed a Surname of a Brahmin...fırst you need to understand..that he was against evil elements of Hındu tradıtıon...thats the only reason he promised his people that we will leave Hınduısm,you better try to read Bıography carefully..he marrıed a Hındu Brahmin and along wıth her,he got converted to Buddhism...talking about he wanted Sanskrit an official language,thats pretty ridiculous,if u have any idea he had to go all the way to Germany..to learn Sanskrit because these Hındus dıd not allow hım..he wanted Sanskrıt to be understood..later it helped for Hındu code bıll,if you are aware of Savarkars wrıtıng you wıll better understand theır relatıons,Mr.mittal I cannot post the incıdents or artıcles published by savarkar here...but would lıke to maıl you,ıf you want to ...or waıt for a upcommıng book Loveletters to Ambedkar wrıtten by a Danish woman..everythıng would be answered ..Babasaheb took help from Muslim League too...shared good relatıons wıth Nızam of Hyderabad ıt doesnt mean he respected Islam.what contents you are aware of..I dont know...Savarkat wrote an artıcle..after conversıon,in hıs artıcle..where he saıd Ambedkar Mahar wıll remaın a Mahar..anywys keep the false contents to you..I guess you havent read you yourself...

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    6. Mr.Mittal please take pains not only to read but understand the contents of..
      1)The Annihalation of Caste.
      2)Who were Shudras.
      3)Riddles in Hinduism.
      4)Untouchables;Who were they and why they been Untouchables.
      5)Against the Madness of Manu.B.R Ambedkar writing on Brahmical Patriachy.
      6)Who were Shudras.
      7)The Untouchables and Pax Britanica
      8)Wıth the Hındus
      9)Hındism
      10)What is worse Slavery or Untouchabilıty

      Hopıng you will get your answers,ın all these books...just dont read but try to understand..

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  4. Dr. Ambedhkar Not Against Hindutva but against castism in india.
    most of yours arguiments are fake

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  5. you are not awer of the real facts and just misguiding people please don't do this, your thinkhing just like at present the ideology of RSS to make Baba sahab a great Hindu

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    1. Please present a rebuttal with references, avoid rhetoric

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    2. Thats because he was a great Hindu.

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  6. This article is obviously written by an RSS facist.
    If Hindutva and secularism are the same then why do people and politicians in particular use them to differentiate between religion and castes.
    I admire Dr. Ambedkar but I'm not going to base my view of his ideology of equality for all on this article.
    How can a man who wrote our great constitution with stress on equality have such harsh opinions about Muslims or any other castes.
    It's a shame if people believe that this account is a true account of his great personality.

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    1. Please present a rebuttal with references, avoid rhetoric

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    2. Abhi Ignore..such stupidous..people..I once had attended zakhir naik..in his conference he came up with most idiotic conclusions..and all moslems around applaused,as if he is a Genuis..this guy naming Kiran is miles away from Banasahebs life..he is commenting..and all Rss followers..are applausing here...atleast you can see how they are struggling to make,a one time untouchable...a Brahmin...thats what is a genuis of a man..like Babasaheb..all will have to kneel before him

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    3. @Rohit: No one in right mind wants to make beef eating ambedkar as Brahmin. You must be dreaming. He was born a mahr and died as one. Whatever he may claim about conversion. And he showed his low caste mentality through out "Constipation",which you call as constituion

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    4. @Shishya: I don't know whose shishya you are and its best we don't know. But I'd like to know who else other think like you because People like you are not only a danger for our democracy and secular state but for the whole society. Your disgraceful comments on low castes should be and will be condemned by one and all whether they stand in favor or against this article in general.

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  7. Since independence Congress were looting us with its so called secular ideology. Now it's turn of BJP with its evergreen hindutva vad.

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    1. True we want Hındutvavad,women should be stopped giving education,there should be sati pratha,child marraiges should be there...this is not what I am sayıng...but Lokmanya stated..and people who oppose Hındu code bıll...Long lıve Bjp and Hındus..where humans can be killed for anımals..and humans can be treated as untouchables...brıng those days back..golden days

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  8. Its nothing but a new social campaign by Modi follower to attract Babasaheb's follower , as they know the significance of the same...........

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  9. Vishal and Deepak - Spend some time reading each point's reference link.

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    1. Mr.Kiran I had spent 6 years day and night to understand this misunderstood man...where have you got this idiotic evidence..proving Babasaheb a Brahmin..is a statement that anyone can ever dream in his nightmare.If you want me to give you his ancestors name mentioned in records I can get for you..I stay abroad and I want you to travel with me to his birth place....please dont do that..tommorow if I write an article saying that your father was some Muslim..I guess ıt wıll pain you..ıt hurts the same way.. Babasheb stood many tımes agaınst Muslim it doesnt mean he had respect for Hındu religıon...Mr.Savarkar mentıons ıt..please read on Savarkar...I can prove you wrong not wıth referıng links but newspapers of those time..dont mislead the facts when you have no understanding of Babasahebs life...My nos is +66 949934097..just gımme a miss call if you want to dısscuss..I can mail all the materials which I have..and will expect the same from you...you should feel sorry that you are degrading a man who sat outsıde class room...and was chosen as one of the genuıs from Columbia unıversty ever..

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    2. Dear Rohit - Please read slowly. The talk is about which caste the surname belongs to. There is a reference to read further.

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  10. Rakesh and Sanjay - Counter the facts presented with the other side, if you feel something is not represented well. This has nothing to do with Congress or BJP.

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  11. Sushmita, Will keep trying. Thanks.

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  12. Abhi - Don't waste your time with things like "RSS fascist".

    Do yourself a favour by reading the links to Ambedkar's books provided in point 7 - Book: Pakistan or the Partition of India by BR Ambedkar - Chapter 10 and Chapter 14.

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  13. No Thank you. Anything that preaches or teaches hatred and intolerance is not for me. A society (any society) that breeds such hateful emotions based on religions, castes, skin color or any other diversity is evil and thats just it.
    I know for sure the person who wrote the constitution could never have such fundamentalist views. Infact, do yourself a favor, learn that hatred leads to self-destruction and that not all accounts true accounts or even interpreted correctly for that matter.
    For instance, Dr. Babasaheb opposed conversion to other Christianity and Islam not because it posed threat to India but because he wanted the dalits hindus to be treated fairly and equally like rest.
    He always stressed on democracy and freedom to chose which is why I cannot agree to your line where he wanted all muslims to be sent to Pakistan and non-muslims to be bought back to India because that would mean use of force and freedom of choice.
    One more thing. The recent agenda of accepting India as Hindutva nation is widely publicised as the ideology of accepting one and all irrespective of one's religion yet your blog in one point states Hindutva for non-dalits and dalits. This is exactly what is wrong with the use of this term. Although publicized as secular term, Ill-informed people can use "Hindutva" to spread intolerance amongst general public.

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  14. Dr Bhim Rao Ambedkar will become celebrity in India once again

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  15. Remember the fact, that dr. babasaheb ambedkar had converted his religion and he believed that Hindu is not true religion..... he made lot much statements in opposition of hinduism... you just coppied one line to spread wrong information and pretend to show that, he is supporter of hinduism and hates other religion....
    You and all who supporting your view must have to read his book "riddles in hinduism by dr. Ambedkar" and their biography by dhananjay keer.

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    1. Rupesh - Let me read that book.
      Thanks.

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    2. Rupesh kapure yes it true that Ambedkar said Hindu is not true religion but under which circumstances he said that should also be understood. During peshva rule shudras were humiliated. A broom in the neck was hanged and broom at its back it was a pathetic . His ideas were modern which has no place for superstitious. Today Hinduism have adopted all Ambedkar teaching coz it is need of hour like equality, women empowerment he was a early feminist. Even today it is not possible for us to follow every custom and tradition as stated in Vedas so eventually we are abolishing.

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    3. Rupesh kapure yes it true that Ambedkar said Hindu is not true religion but under which circumstances he said that should also be understood. During peshva rule shudras were humiliated. A broom in the neck was hanged and broom at its back it was a pathetic . His ideas were modern which has no place for superstitious. Today Hinduism have adopted all Ambedkar teaching coz it is need of hour like equality, women empowerment he was a early feminist. Even today it is not possible for us to follow every custom and tradition as stated in Vedas so eventually we are abolishing.

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  17. Hi Kiran kumar, I appreciate your efforts. But i think one can not convince everyone. it seems that mr. Abhi will not spare any time to go through the references. He has made up his mind.

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    1. Mr.Ashish I really cannot understand how you people can distort History...this is an grave evidence from this article,that how Brahmins can paint truth black..dear freind I am travelling to places and collecting some unknown facts..and about his personal life from past 6 years..I stay in thailand,and recently visited Bonn university,his hand written letters,his thoughts are very well collected by me to compile a book...you will come to understanding that he felt Hındu was a poison..and biggest threat to Indian culture,peace and harmony.His dialogues wıth Lady Mountbatten..or Irish constirution writer..Valera..his communication with Bois..will give you ample of evidence.Dr.Ambedkar was attacked several times and he was protected by English men.I can produce newspaper cuttings..Savarkar was a person who spent all his life to block Ambedkar..I have enough material which can give you enough evidence to convince that how badly he hated Hındu culture..please read your own reformers..Savarkar,moonje,kripalji maharaja..and others..what views they had..I can prove it on basis of Newspaper cuttings...the articles published of those time..so stop..spreading lies...

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  18. That is right Sir. I will not go through any references that tends to spread hatred and confusion. You can be content with writer's interpretations but please forget about convincing me or people like me.

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  19. This is a classic case of selecting favourable quotes from Ambedkar. Do you know Ambedkar wanted Muslim majority Kashmir to be given to Pakistan? He has said so in his resignation speech on 10th Oct 1951. Do care to read it - https://ambedkarism.wordpress.com/2011/03/10/dr-ambedkar%E2%80%99s-resignation-speech/

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  20. good very good everybody want to embarrassed babasaheb

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  22. A very nice article and that too with all references. I wont consider your statements as fake. In last 3-4 decades so called secular persons have been misguding our brothers so much with false thoughts that they wont agree so easily with real facts. While reading about article about Sawarkar and Ambedkar I came across this blog. So called secular persons talk so much about Gandhiji and blame that they follow his path but Babasaheb was the bold person to say " i refuse to call him Mahatma" . Listen to his interview on BBC on youtube. Those who are opposing Kiran here such interviews on BBC will be eye opener for them.

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    1. Mr.Prasad kindly get your facts rıght..what Babsaheb saıd agisnst gandi...mr kiran should also write what he had views on Savarkar,Tılak moonje and Hindu system..why he stood agaınst Gandhi because..he was not secular but a Hındu mind exısted in hım..he stood for varna sanstha...half knowledge is dangerous..Thanks ..elaborate on his whole life..

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  23. The problem is not secularism but the politics that our politicians play in the name of secularism by both sides that is "for" secularism and one "against". How can a concept that ask everyone to be treated equally be wrong? Secularism and true democracy goes hand in hand. The laws and rights of all citizens should be equal and not just something favorable for majority or in some cases for minorities (vote banks for our corrupt politicians).
    Dr. Ambedkar was a visionary and he fought for the equal rights for all and hence to basket him as against secularism or against muslisms or any minority is not only wrong but an insult to this great person who for me is on equal level with Mahatma Gandhi. I personally still have no qualms to call him Mahatma.And Secularism is no property of congress. It is a privilege for us all Indians to be called citizens of a secular country and not some religiously motivated one.

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  24. I think among these “interesting facts,” the writer of this blog is losing the sight of the fact that Amberkar is not at all about Hindutva! He is much much more than this. This post reeks of some agenda! What would have been more interesting if you would have pointed out that it was Ambedkar who made brought about the labour laws like 8 hour’s working day, maternity leave, and PF.
    He had the foresight to divide our forces into three sections so that the power is not concentrated in any one person’s hands thereby ensuring that our democracy is secure from any future dictators!
    The list goes on. Rather than focussing on casts, it would be great if we could focus on his work!

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    1. Meghana Jadhav - These are just 10 random things that came in books, media and blogs. They are not complete works or history at all. And surely, Dr. Ambedkar did a lot as an Economist. You can educate us more on that.

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  25. Ambedkar on Hindu Rashtra and India
    It has been a topic of endless discussion why Ambedkar in the constitution of India Article 1 said 'India that is Bharat'. A clue could lie in this passage:

    “If Hindu Raj becomes a reality then it would be greatest menace to this country. Whatever may Hindus say, actually it does not make a difference that Hinduism is a danger to Independence, Equality and Brotherhood. Thus it is an enemy of democracy. We should make all out efforts to stop Hindu Raj from becoming a reality.”
    ( Pakistan or Partition of India, Page 358)

    Ambedkar knew that India is not Hindustan and wanted to prevent any such claim... as is now being claimed that Hindutva is the same as 'Indian' and 'cultural nationalism'. 'Cultural nationalism' is facism, borrowed from the Nazis by the fathers of Hindutva V D Savarkar etc.

    The 42nd amendment put paid to any hope of a theocratic Hindu Rashtra, by adding 'secular' to the preamble.

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  26. Ambedkar on Hindu Rashtra and India
    It has been a topic of endless discussion why Ambedkar in the constitution of India Article 1 said 'India that is Bharat'. A clue could lie in this passage:

    “If Hindu Raj becomes a reality then it would be greatest menace to this country. Whatever may Hindus say, actually it does not make a difference that Hinduism is a danger to Independence, Equality and Brotherhood. Thus it is an enemy of democracy. We should make all out efforts to stop Hindu Raj from becoming a reality.”
    ( Pakistan or Partition of India, Page 358)

    Ambedkar knew that India is not Hindustan and wanted to prevent any such claim... as is now being claimed that Hindutva is the same as 'Indian' and 'cultural nationalism'. 'Cultural nationalism' is facism, borrowed from the Nazis by the fathers of Hindutva V D Savarkar etc.

    The 42nd amendment put paid to any hope of a theocratic Hindu Rashtra, by adding 'secular' to the preamble.

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  27. Today 14 April...salutes and tribute to this great man Dr Ambedkar.
    I wish Pt Neharu would have given proper justice to Babasahebs intellectuals. Babasahesb was great economist. Had Dr Amabedkar a finance minister and had Indian Govt listened to his suggestion about Kashnir issue India would have better status now,
    @Dybs.. Veer Sawarkars concept of Hinduism was different. Both these personalities had great respect for each other.
    http://www.savarkar.org/en/social-reforms/q
    Read more on this site. I hope you would. As per Babasahebs teachings one has to educate him/herself. One can argue on some points but not good just to neglect what other person suggest. Opposition should not be just to oppose any concepts or comments. Today I attended one Babasahebs program. One speaker said Babasahebs Trusutri ..( in Marathi) shika sanghatit vha , sangharsh kara...has different significance at present. Yesterday on one TV channel one Industrialist Mr Kamble said.. We have taken Dr Ambedkar on head but we are not taking his thoughts in our head.
    Kiran.. Once again I appreciate contents of your thoughts..Those who follow Babasahebs teachings will put their rebuttal with references.

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    1. Mr Prasad I have invested my 6 years researching on Babasaheb...Savarkar was the guy he hated the most and challenged hım couple of times..there was an incident...when a Babasahev follower..came to meet Babasaheb..wıthout appoıntment..but as he pleaded..Babasahebs servant allowed hım...the young man wıth pain and watered eyes..came wıth some newspapers..where savarkar crıtıcısed Babasaheb...and he had not replıed...this brought unrest in Babasahebs followers..Babasaheb for a minute looked at pointed hım some newspaper lyıng on table..he saıd just go through these newspapers..and mark articles against me..in those 9 newspapers..each paper had 3 to 4 articles whıch contained mallacious wrıtıng ...he asked the young ın 9 papers and apporox.3 artıcles crıtıcıng me..that means 27 articles..ıf ı waste an hour replyıng them ı wıll require 27 hrs....ın a day...ıf ı gıve ımportance to a man lıke savarkar and waste my valueble tıme...when wıll ı complete my imperatıve duties..Gandhı and congress ıs internatıonaly and natıonaly known..so i do reply them...why you want me waste my tıme..the young man understood..now go away..and work for upliftment for our Community..who need us..more..you idıot..have wasted my 20 mın...ı would have done something constructıve...the both exchanged smıle..and guy left..thıs guy was Shakar Kharat...I can produce many such artıcles and wrıtıng not assumprıons lıke mr.kiran...how babasheb wanted to help savarkars bro..fınancıally..as savarkar..got funds of 80,000 rs...but other hand hıs brother who stood by hım couldnt pay some of 15 rs.to rajwade...when news reach babasheb he was deeply paıned...cmon ı wıll go on and on kıran has fake storıes...mr.kıran doesnt know banashebs orıgınal surname was sakpal...for that we need to go to hıs bırth place...hıs father turned vegetarıan..when he lost hıs wıfe..he turned to kabır sect...Babasaheb marrıed to brahmın when she saıd we Brahmın women are also untouchable ın Hındu tradıtıon..

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  28. Contents

    PART I - RELIGIOUS
    Riddle No. 1 : The difficulty of knowing why one is a Hindu
    Riddle No. 2 : The Origin Of The Vedas—The Brahminic Explanation or An Exercise In The Art Of Circumlocution
    Riddle No. 3 : The Testimony Of Other Shastras On The Origin Of The Vedas
    Riddle no. 4 : Why suddenly the brahmins declare the vedas to be infallible and not to be questioned?
    Riddle no. 5 : Why did the brahmins go further and declare that the vedas are neither made by man nor by god?
    Riddle no. 6 : The contents of the vedas: have they any moral or spiritual value?
    Riddle no. 7 : The turn of the tide or how did the brahmins deceare the vedas to be lower than the lowest of their shastras?
    Riddle no. 8 : How the upanishads declared war on the vedas?
    Riddle no. 9 : How the upanishads came to be made subordinate to the vedas?
    Riddle no. 10 : Why did the brahmins make the hindu gods fight against one another?
    Riddle no. 11 : Why did the brahmins make the hindu gods suffer to rise and fall?
    Riddle no. 12 : Why did the brahmins dethrone the gods and enthrone the goddesses?
    Riddle no. 13 : The riddle of the ahimsa
    Riddle no. 14 : From ahimsa back to himsa
    Riddle no. 15 : How did the brahmins wed an ahimsak god to a bloodthirsty Goddess?

    APPENDIX
    PART II - SOCIAL
    PART III - POLITICAL

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  29. Contents

    PART I - RELIGIOUS
    Riddle No. 1 : The difficulty of knowing why one is a Hindu
    Riddle No. 2 : The Origin Of The Vedas—The Brahminic Explanation or An Exercise In The Art Of Circumlocution
    Riddle No. 3 : The Testimony Of Other Shastras On The Origin Of The Vedas
    Riddle no. 4 : Why suddenly the brahmins declare the vedas to be infallible and not to be questioned?
    Riddle no. 5 : Why did the brahmins go further and declare that the vedas are neither made by man nor by god?
    Riddle no. 6 : The contents of the vedas: have they any moral or spiritual value?
    Riddle no. 7 : The turn of the tide or how did the brahmins deceare the vedas to be lower than the lowest of their shastras?
    Riddle no. 8 : How the upanishads declared war on the vedas?
    Riddle no. 9 : How the upanishads came to be made subordinate to the vedas?
    Riddle no. 10 : Why did the brahmins make the hindu gods fight against one another?
    Riddle no. 11 : Why did the brahmins make the hindu gods suffer to rise and fall?
    Riddle no. 12 : Why did the brahmins dethrone the gods and enthrone the goddesses?
    Riddle no. 13 : The riddle of the ahimsa
    Riddle no. 14 : From ahimsa back to himsa
    Riddle no. 15 : How did the brahmins wed an ahimsak god to a bloodthirsty Goddess?

    APPENDIX
    PART II - SOCIAL
    PART III - POLITICAL

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  30. Frndz ! Just chanced upon d blog.
    More fiction less facts about RSS nd it's Hindu ideology seem to have captured d imagination of a few of d bloggers here. I think I might b of greater help since was associated to RSS since childhood through Saraswati Shishu Mandir (1968 to 1974) than through Shakha (unit nd command) level.
    At my school (run by RSS) we used to celebrate Dr. Ambedkar Jayanti with great fan fare as part of curriculum. At Shakha level we used ro organize a Sahbhoj program (luncheon) at Dalit/
    Malin localities once or twice a month. We were never allowed to disclose our cast at any RSS gathering. Also that during any social need like marriage aur death we never hesitated to be a part of any dalit or muslim family provided there was a need and acceptance for our presence. During any crisis like floods, draught, fire aur accident RSS volunteers never shown any discrimination and served the needy with best of their might.
    At RSS we respected all those who respected India and worked for it's unity. That is why we had more than 2000 muslims volunteers regularly attending our shakhas in 1978 at Mathura City (UP) alon where I belong to post emergency.
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    1. Anant Bhatnagar - Great insight from a first hand experience from 1968-1974. Thanks ji!

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  31. After the above brief and actual introduction of RSS functioning as a social, integral and pure patriotic force now let us know why people who judged RSS with Congress, communist or cast based parameters of some political parties of modern India, fear or hate it. Why we do not find a single person who actually worked in RSS gor a substantial period and came put an opponent denouncing it as anti national or fasist. We all know that during 1920s Muslim Legue had openly started supporting an armed rebellion for a separate Muslime state with cladestine support from London (British). That was d time when lots of confusive and unwanted wrong practices were also dominating the earstwhile Hindu community. Local level communal flareups and riots jad been on the steep rise. Jindu Mahasabha was a strong but higher cast only answer wirh Hindus for an increasingly offensive Muslims. Dalits had absolutely no clear understanding in the face of absence of any strong leadership and sense of pride. Both- Baba Saheb and Dr. K B Hedgevar (RSS Founder) understood d need of time in different perception and adopted different methods to unify the weaking Hindu society. Dr. Hedgevar perceived unification of all Hindu casts and conceived RSS as a strong, armed reactionary force for protection of otherwise defenceless and non offensive unarmed Hindus. Here you can compare his deeds to what Guru Gobind Singh Ji had done during extreme muslim oppressions. He started this Sahbhoj and Sahyog program at hitherto untouchable Hindu colonies and ensured the presence of even Brhmins in all those SAMRASATA events. RSS attained it's actual shape when deprived and routed Hindus from Bengal nd Punjab started arriving in devided India. Even Nehru Ji and aba Saheb had a lots of praise for the rehabilitation work done by RSS during 1947. Since than RSS has remained a great deterrent in d path of anti national and religiously fanatic forces.
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  32. It was RSS mainly who opposed emergency in 1976 and paid a heavy price for supporting J P and voices of dissent to Indira. If you actually want to understand RSS than study the lives of it's full timers (Pracharaks) who, mostly very high educated, donate their precious careers and lifes for the service of nation and are never paid a single penny for it. They may be the most powerful but you will find them always simplest to the core and away from most of the modern day vices.
    Comming from western UP (where muslims are sizable and very terbulant in afew cities like Aligarh, Moradabad, Sambhal, Kanpur etc) I have closely watched the riots. The so called secular political bigwigs gain most from any riot hence they prefer to act one sided (pro muslim) during and after any riot. The defenceless Hindu who takes d maximum brunt of all attacks during riots are mostly Dalits who have to live face to face with any muslim concentration. RSS becomes the first a d foremost force saving, reviving and rehabilitating them. I have witnessed many a scenes where miscreants and criminals ran away seeing RSS volunteers.
    I shall conclude with- in a country where politics is based on sole considerations of votes, Obesis are regularly born, call for a uniform civil code is a big crime, national flag bearers are punished by states and Pakistan and ISIS flags go scot free, people gether courage to challenge and insult d motherland while sitting in Delhi (JNU/ Envoy Meet with Kashmiri separatists), Akhlak gets 40 lacs and a martyr's family has to face famish, where we do not bycott Chinese goods and Pakistani sugar/onion even they keep on waging war against us, Any Ajam Khan is rewarded for calling Bharat Mata a "Dayan" and justice has been left alon for Supreme Court (comment to be verified since very few make it to SC) we need strong social, patriotic reactionary forces like RSS to keep a shelter open for mostly defenceless. Let us stop biting each other posing like very fashionable educated seculars and start understanding d real and growing dangers of disintegration from within and across d border.
    Rgds
    Anant Arya Bhatnagar
    jgadven@gmail.com

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  34. He is regarded as the architect of the Indian Constitution. Of late, there has literally been a fight among various political parties to claim his legacy.

    But, Dr Ambedkar has on a number of occasions spoken against extreme form of Hindutva.

    The same is evident in five quotes by Dr Ambedkar:

    “Slavery will not be tolerated in the name of religion. This Manusmriti, in the very first chapter says that Brahmans are created from Brahma’s (creator’s) head, Kshatriya from his hands, Vaishyas from his thighs and Shudras from his feet. By burning this Manusmriti, we launch a mission to uproot casteism from its roots. But getting rid of caste alone is not our goal, this is the beginning of social revolution which would end Brahman hegemony.”

    “A bitter thing cannot be made sweet. The taste of anything can be changed. But poison cannot be changed into nectar.” (in response to Mahatma Gandhi's efforts to reclaim Dalits back into the Hindu fold.)

    “…no one can doubt that there was a time when Hindus, both Brahmins and non-Brahmins, ate not only flesh but also beef.”

    “Though, I was born a Hindu, I solemnly assure you that I will not die as a Hindu.”

    “I will not believe in Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. Neither would I worship them.”

    If u want reference just copy and paste the quotes in Google search bar...

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    1. Sajid - What has Manu Smriti got to do with Hindutva? Have you ever seen RSS or anyone proclaiming Hindutva, quote any Smriti?

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  35. Most famous Indian Personality, not in India only but around the world he is famous. I respect him and try to follow him.

    Thanks
    Jai Bheem
    Dr Br Ambedkar

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    1. Naresh - Thanks. Yes, he was a great visionary!

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  36. Bhaiii Kiran I'm respected ur blog of B.R Ambedkar bt unhone apna Hindu dharam chhodkar buddhist q apnaya ye b batao ismein ??? Jin brahman hindu ne babasaheb ko har ek mod par pareshaani creat ki ...shudra shudra bolkar logon k upar attyachar kiya ?? Unko 1000 yrs apan gulaam banaya or niche kaam k liye hindu brahman ne logon ko gulaam banakar istemal kiya ??? Unhe paani b pine nahi dete the hindu brahman ??? Ye q nahi bataya is post mein... Unhone dalit or shudron k liye kya struggle kiya ye b batao is post mein... Actually apne jo ye post kiya hai ye sirf RSS or BJP k anusaar kiya hai ismein se aap sirf incomplete information de rahe ho !!! Ye pura India Hindu , Muslim shikh and Buddhist type cast k log rahte hai ye dhyaan me rakhna .... Ye India ka savidhaan bhi is rules par banaya gaya hai.... Isliye yaha lokshahi hai... Ek hi religion mat pakadkar baitho yaar... Apas mein zagde ho jayenge logon mein...ki jo gujrat mein hua tha..... Aisa mat karo mere yaaro.....

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    1. Rahul - 1000s of books have been written about Dharma, caste issues, conversion to Buddhism and so on. This was only an attempt to present what was not commonly known. That's it my friend.

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    2. Unke guru bhi Brahmin the .....unki patni bhi Brahmin thi kyu??

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  37. Utter nonsense being sold as facts... I am surely going to report this blog for spreading of misinformation and misrepresentation against a well known personality.

    Please correct the information at the earliest or share authentic HISTORY Source where you have received this information from.

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    1. Sameer - For every point listed above, one or more sources that I came across have been provided. In some cases, they are books, in some cases news papers and in some cases blogs. If you see any specific reference or references being factually incorrect, challenge them. Better, provide an alternate reading so that I can get your perspective. I am not a historian. I am merely writing blogs based on the information I come across, providing references honestly.

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    2. @sameer: did you report it ? Im sure you havent and you wont

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  38. great blog i read ever about ambedkar ,the lagend. everyone in this country is debited to his immense work towards well being of lower cast,women,children, company and daily wage workers.no need to debate on his revolutionary personality,just try to be at his place in those ridiculous days ruled by slavery biased upper caste manu followers. he made an achievement that seems to be impossible ar that times. i dont need to make my opinion towards him as stated above by some wonderful geniuses who is residing abroad. if he want to enjoy the golden days of past and opposing him like anything ,he surely need a standing applaud, but be conscious as his followers like me believe in his thoughts that achieved by doing degrees not by chanting useless manu made gods and geniuses like all of you

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    1. Hahaha! This is wrong number waala fake baba.

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    2. Abhi..please don't make fun of Baba Saheb

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    3. I didn't make fun of the real Babasaheb. The fake baba was meant for the commentator above who uses his name.

      Infact people who are using this great personalities name to create rifts amongst people are the real culprits.

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  40. Just I want to clear that we are all humans ,according to evolution theories we all humans being successor of apes we have eaten meat unknowingly no one can deny on this ,so don't put any person on their way of living!
    We being modern people n future of country,we must accept the teachings of all great leaders no matter to which caste they belong

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