tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post2159304127130889519..comments2024-03-23T02:40:09.391-07:00Comments on Kiran's Thoughts.. As Is: Kaveri: Current Situation in Karnataka's DamsKiran KShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11410963824919626970noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-24808318601708094172020-09-09T04:44:22.969-07:002020-09-09T04:44:22.969-07:00Astogurutips is the top best Online Astrology webs...Astogurutips is the top best Online Astrology website in India with more than 500+ astrologer on the portal. He gives a Best Astrology solutions from the Best Astrologers . You can connect with our astrologer through call or chat and ask you any question about your carrier, health, future, love partner etc. <br /> <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.astrogurutips" rel="nofollow">Best astrologer</a><br /><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.astrogurutips" rel="nofollow">Astro guru online</a><br /><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.astrogurutips" rel="nofollow">Best astrologer</a><br /><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.astrogurutips" rel="nofollow">Talk to astrologer</a><br /><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.astrogurutips" rel="nofollow">Best astrology app</a><br /><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.astrogurutips" rel="nofollow">Online pandit</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03742527878251722846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-9580647277278792302017-08-15T04:45:34.624-07:002017-08-15T04:45:34.624-07:00Kiran, you did this very useful analysis of the wa...Kiran, you did this very useful analysis of the water situation in Karnataka last September. I am keen to see you 'close the loop' .. and tell us what happened all the way to August 2017, almost 1 year later Ajithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14735274696055515160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-41129504634663378102016-10-03T05:21:18.206-07:002016-10-03T05:21:18.206-07:00Do you have any current data on how much water is ...Do you have any current data on how much water is there in Tamil Nadu dams, canals and also how many lakh acres are being cultivated this year?Kiran KShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11410963824919626970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-70990170286698024332016-10-03T05:20:24.953-07:002016-10-03T05:20:24.953-07:00The big problem for Karnataka is that the Kaveri r...The big problem for Karnataka is that the Kaveri river basin is separated by the Arabian Sea coast by the second largest mountain range in India. Pumping huge amount of water 3500 to 4000 feet above sea level, and then bringing down 250 KM is not at all easy.Kiran KShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11410963824919626970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-31221031047096881582016-09-25T10:37:56.828-07:002016-09-25T10:37:56.828-07:00REAL shraddhanjali to our Jawans.....
Time for the...REAL shraddhanjali to our Jawans.....<br />Time for the prayers for FRIENDSHIP between India and Pakistan... when things go out of one's control ,one should pray....there is no religious ritual or any paperwork done among friends yet FRIENDSHIP exists.... FRIENDSHIP is considered the best relationship... people of same mindset become friends... let all the Indians pray that Pakistanees become our friends...then there will be no fight and no fear... positive mindset people of both the countries can work together to remove negativity....those forced into terrorism might be able to give it up on their own.... prayers work...all Indians please pray for this FRIENDSHIP so that no jawan family member is in tears ever....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09981016024307537177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-85040185698116288762016-09-25T10:37:56.335-07:002016-09-25T10:37:56.335-07:00REAL shraddhanjali to our Jawans.....
Time for the...REAL shraddhanjali to our Jawans.....<br />Time for the prayers for FRIENDSHIP between India and Pakistan... when things go out of one's control ,one should pray....there is no religious ritual or any paperwork done among friends yet FRIENDSHIP exists.... FRIENDSHIP is considered the best relationship... people of same mindset become friends... let all the Indians pray that Pakistanees become our friends...then there will be no fight and no fear... positive mindset people of both the countries can work together to remove negativity....those forced into terrorism might be able to give it up on their own.... prayers work...all Indians please pray for this FRIENDSHIP so that no jawan family member is in tears ever....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09981016024307537177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-47086477884016928972016-09-25T10:37:54.365-07:002016-09-25T10:37:54.365-07:00REAL shraddhanjali to our Jawans.....
Time for the...REAL shraddhanjali to our Jawans.....<br />Time for the prayers for FRIENDSHIP between India and Pakistan... when things go out of one's control ,one should pray....there is no religious ritual or any paperwork done among friends yet FRIENDSHIP exists.... FRIENDSHIP is considered the best relationship... people of same mindset become friends... let all the Indians pray that Pakistanees become our friends...then there will be no fight and no fear... positive mindset people of both the countries can work together to remove negativity....those forced into terrorism might be able to give it up on their own.... prayers work...all Indians please pray for this FRIENDSHIP so that no jawan family member is in tears ever....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09981016024307537177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-38961896266799336892016-09-25T10:37:52.941-07:002016-09-25T10:37:52.941-07:00REAL shraddhanjali to our Jawans.....
Time for the...REAL shraddhanjali to our Jawans.....<br />Time for the prayers for FRIENDSHIP between India and Pakistan... when things go out of one's control ,one should pray....there is no religious ritual or any paperwork done among friends yet FRIENDSHIP exists.... FRIENDSHIP is considered the best relationship... people of same mindset become friends... let all the Indians pray that Pakistanees become our friends...then there will be no fight and no fear... positive mindset people of both the countries can work together to remove negativity....those forced into terrorism might be able to give it up on their own.... prayers work...all Indians please pray for this FRIENDSHIP so that no jawan family member is in tears ever....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09981016024307537177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-9335034663367542722016-09-23T19:22:30.831-07:002016-09-23T19:22:30.831-07:00I’m a proud Indian, and love Pakistan as my young ...I’m a proud Indian, and love Pakistan as my young Bro, I’m hopeful someday India will only be ONE nation to hug Pak in their last days.<br /><br />I always felt that Pak decisions on terror side are initiated by their internal group but never thought its China’s mind behind.<br /><br />Until now I wanted to win Pak hearts and today learnt that I not only buy a China mobile I have to acquire complete patent and I mean it. We Indians are very strong when we decide to do something.<br /><br />Dear Friend China, your nervous looking at India is justified, remember we never wanted to overturn your bizz but you glitch us and we will return you.Prasad Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01614123901092862982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-25913929086789260552016-09-22T22:14:10.523-07:002016-09-22T22:14:10.523-07:00Why not some smart engineer or a group of enterpri...Why not some smart engineer or a group of enterprising engineers find a way of pumping about 30000 cusecs of water from Arabian Sea, desalinate it and make it flow Parnell to Kaveri to be used only for agricultural purposes in three main districts of Karnataka and finally merge it with Cauvery near KRS <br />This water need not be shared with other states and present sharing formula with other states will continue <br />Our farmers will be extremely happy as more areas can be brought under wet land cultivation. There is much scope also to properly treat the desalinated sea water to suit agricjltural use <br />I welcome comments Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07121579332903752281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-55361516051186695002016-09-22T03:29:18.332-07:002016-09-22T03:29:18.332-07:00How can you decide the things based data provide b...How can you decide the things based data provide by Karnataka alone...supreme Court is not a fool do give judgement...Karnataka blindly increase their cropping area. Now crying...<br />It's tamilnadu right to have water..same problem of drinking water is faced by Tamil nadu..<br />What would we do if northeast mansoon also fails like southwest...our farmers will not even get single crop...M.Sureshkumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02844714340346416327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-7957275207382986902016-09-22T03:26:52.721-07:002016-09-22T03:26:52.721-07:00How can you decide the things based data provide b...How can you decide the things based data provide by Karnataka alone...supreme Court is not a fool do give judgement...Karnataka blindly increase their cropping area. Now crying...<br />It's tamilnadu right to have water..same problem of drinking water is faced by Tamil nadu..<br />What would we do if northeast mansoon also fails like southwest...our farmers will not even get single crop...M.Sureshkumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02844714340346416327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-28769051669226021082016-09-21T10:19:31.971-07:002016-09-21T10:19:31.971-07:00China has 60 billion trade volume with India. You ...China has 60 billion trade volume with India. You failed to account for that.it cannot afford to loose that market in short term. For a potential 20 billion market that will be fully ready after 5-10 yrs. China cannot afford to fight with India because of economic reasons and if they fight now they still have to use Indian ocean until new route is ready plus they do not want problem in south China sea where they are eyeing natural gas reserves. So I see this analysis as bit incomplete and biased. In war scenario only Pakistan is the real loser and China only looses part of 50 billion investment.Abhinav Jainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129194831663297197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-87302145024156188902016-09-21T00:38:51.889-07:002016-09-21T00:38:51.889-07:00When money and power can overrule and nepotism is ...When money and power can overrule and nepotism is at its tip, no data or stats can make anyone happy!Anil Govindaiahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14945458829563166045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-86825578145676231372016-09-20T22:17:46.348-07:002016-09-20T22:17:46.348-07:00I think the people of Karnataka have themselves to...I think the people of Karnataka have themselves to blame for this situation. Their elected representatives have failed them more than once. According to their own data almost 50% of water supplied to Benguluru is wasted (un-accounted). Would be a useful start to look for solutions there! Also, if it is indeed statistically so obvious that Karnataka has a dire drinking water shortage then why would 2 forums (incld SC) rule not once but twice to release water to TN. Something not right with the stats you are showing? Instead of ordinary citizens culling out data from various sources why doesn't the govt of Karnataka make public the stats they are presenting to SC and yet loosing the case everytime.Baronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15001164574120645496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-4034695281154865702016-09-20T12:31:12.944-07:002016-09-20T12:31:12.944-07:00As India as a country, we suppose to share the % o...As India as a country, we suppose to share the % of water based on availability of that year not the amount of water. As I am from AP krishna basin, farmers don't have crops for last 2 years in Telangana and AP as we don't have rains to fill KA reservoirs 100 %. First KA filling their dams 100% and releasing excess water to down states which is not right. We are all Indians atleadt we suppose to share the natural resources.Indianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08545569019287131720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-48937745685437530342016-09-20T08:50:08.341-07:002016-09-20T08:50:08.341-07:00Yes what fault dud you find in it..ok in other ter...Yes what fault dud you find in it..ok in other terms if TN is going to use this water as drinking water for madras and not for irrigation......will you account it?????...<br /><br />Additional demand should always be solved by additional or extension project...not keeping or challenging the design as per today(which will vary each day).just a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369812336436375476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-91652697125788831592016-09-20T08:44:56.528-07:002016-09-20T08:44:56.528-07:00One more is that...desalination has to two steps R...One more is that...desalination has to two steps RO...<br /> It is always (economy)wise. To put desalination plant for drinking water.<br /><br />Cannot even think of using desalinated water to irrigation.<br /><br />The surface water from rivers with minerals is good and needed for the irrigation of both states.<br /><br />Whoever having drinking needs should find other sources like lakes or desalination as per their needs.<br /><br />RO will completely remove minerals. Drinking water needs less minerals compared to irrigating water. In otherwords more minerals to be added to desalinated water if it is to be served for irrigation than the drinking water.<br /><br />It is common practise all over world today in modern industrial plants too and in past over 1000 years(karikalans kallanai) to dam water for irrigation and to dug well(safest form of drinking water).<br /><br />Wells for drinking water will automatically lead to water conservation techniques as it is considered highly precious. In other forms if this drinking water is obtained from dam and all..it will not lead to water conservation techniques in simple words....<br /><br />This is the practise.just a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369812336436375476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-16082328739863559032016-09-20T08:31:04.327-07:002016-09-20T08:31:04.327-07:00Yes i appreciate this extensive research work....b...Yes i appreciate this extensive research work....but again i am letting you know the basic distrubution engineering above all. First let us keep this point away about monsoons each year which will vary or cannot predict and the TN may have more underground reserves as this cannot solve in a moment.<br /><br />Now take the design analysis of dam(s) when each was built to serve the purposes of both states. Example:- XX TMC to karnataka(hectares of land to serve and no of population to serve) and xx TMC to TN(% of water can be shared each year as per stored water, leave about expected water which is out of control).<br /><br />Now take a statistics and publish which state has increased consumption and which state has decreased consumption against design volumes?????..<br /><br />1. If consumption has increased by any state....how they will have first rights over which other state has to get???.<br /><br />2. The new increased consumption should be considered by new additional capacity or new dams not by just keeping hands in others plate of share for which it is designed??? Whether others crop five or ten times in each year what stops to follow design????.<br /><br />Please explain this too. Dams cannot be constructed as we like at locations. <br /><br />Please arrive % of share each year as per stored values of that year and share without problems. For these no need to rely on future expected things. What is available to be shared. Thats it. Cauvery Water management board has to be formed and each year will approve and announce the % to be shared with be the only ethical method.<br /><br />For additional consumption increase plan the alternate method or leave consuming.<br /><br />Will this common engineer's doubt will be shared and worked upon if this page is not biasing side. just a guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00369812336436375476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-43279224175795279162016-09-19T23:17:49.095-07:002016-09-19T23:17:49.095-07:00Very nice analysis Kiran. Writing again as a neutr...Very nice analysis Kiran. Writing again as a neutral person, doesn't the State of Karnataka have any prerogative here to implement more water conservation/ Reverse Osmosis measures if it feels that it's falling short of supply to meet the enormous demand. Why should Tamil Nadu have to bear the brunt of this unpardonable error on behalf of this defunct govt. in Karnataka. Regards,Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06323269717140809127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-75036686023386004372016-09-19T04:16:56.374-07:002016-09-19T04:16:56.374-07:00Very good article. You should have been the one pr...Very good article. You should have been the one presenting the case from KA in front of SCAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08241152004640440703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-36174768480225164552016-09-19T01:47:20.612-07:002016-09-19T01:47:20.612-07:00Yes. But what about smaller dams or canals beyond ...Yes. But what about smaller dams or canals beyond Mettur?Kiran KShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11410963824919626970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-5854661655505095832016-09-19T01:46:39.886-07:002016-09-19T01:46:39.886-07:00Thanks. Thanks. Kiran KShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11410963824919626970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-2463978456021961202016-09-19T01:46:25.269-07:002016-09-19T01:46:25.269-07:00Thanks. Thanks. Kiran KShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11410963824919626970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1485405523308080612.post-22237958186009839252016-09-17T09:16:27.162-07:002016-09-17T09:16:27.162-07:00Correction : TN getting rains during North East Mo...Correction : TN getting rains during North East Monsoon alone, KA getting rains during South East Monsoon alone.VThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16868269204924510354noreply@blogger.com